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i think the examples you gave up the creation of overcapacity is an interesting example of the bank lending, not being oriented in terms of creating a short-term or long-term profit but now being ordered -- oriented towards creating wealth to sustain human life. are there any ways that you can see that bank lending in the creation of our future for structure we will have to live with hopefully if we survive for the next centuries, that can be tied to something that will allow us to whether this increasing storm or is more government action required? thanks so much. >> thank you for that question. i am not an expert in that area and there is clearly a lot more important things that can be done to address that issue in lending policy. i think you are right that
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lending policy can exacerbate the issue. take the issue of coal. i think right now china is buying 50% of the world's coal or something really high like that but that's clearly a function of their lending. more practices alone would reduce the consumption of coal. i don't think it's central for the issue to bring up but it's in there somewhere. >> any last words? what do you want everyone to remember as they leave today? >> i just want to say thank you. i'm really grateful that everybody came and i'm grateful to you and tyler are giving up a little time this evening. it i greatly appreciated. >> thank you. [applause] richard will be signing books in the back so pick up a copy and thanks everyone for coming. >> the questions were fabulous.
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[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> this battle was fought in the 1920s by progressives randolph bourne and leader herbert marcuse who wanted to have what they call the transnational america which was a place where you would have different pocke pockets, federation of different
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nations is what they called it. they lost that fight to the abolitionists. the assimilationist one and what we have as a result is the country comes together and is able to fight world war ii. as a country you see these movies from world war ii. a guy from brooklyn and the guy from texas and an irish guy from boston and a wasp-ish guy coming together to fight in these john wayne movies. that is a result of the assimilationist winning the argument. these guys -- he never gave up. this is what you see today. it's the same ideology, not the same people, these people are dead that they are the same ideological heirs. >> i think it's an excellent point and i think it's important to communicate that more and more. these are americans that were pushing this balkanization in breaking away from the small r republican values that have sustained us as a country.
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>> marquees this one. >> where was he from? >> i think he was from germany. >> this is mostly home-grown progressivism in something not coming across because of immigrants. oftentimes is something that is given to immigrants were force-fed to immigrants. >> that's the thing. we see immigrants and especially hispanics as agents of change. people who want to fundamentally transform america to quote one famous progressive see hispanics as a progressive of change and i go into this in my book "a race for the future." i make an argument that hispanic can and should be agents for conserving a traditional value and america's place in the world. we are seeing right now in the summer of 2014 what happens when america withdraws from being the leader in the world. hispanics, conservatives need to
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join the battle, join this battle forward and that is the subtitle of my book, conservatives can break the monopoly, the liberal monopoly over hispanics. conservatives need to engage because hispanics need to be reached out to. they cannot just received. >> one message. >> the description of america as a racist place, as the place so unfair that hispanics need government intervention. >> actually that does cut against usually those who emigrate to the united states because when they come to the united states they are not coming to a miserable racist nation. they are coming for success. >> they are attracted by fundamentally two things, liberty and prosperity. this is why my family came here looking for in the 1970s and to use us as agents of change to
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transform this historical experiment in self-government that has produced so much liberty and so much prosperity is something that i felt i had to fight against sirota book. consumers have to reach out to hispanics through a norman rockwell vision of america which still exists. we are a country of people pitching in together and helping each other. the only government official and it's a wonderful life as a bank examiner who is going to put george bailey in jail. >> it was the bad guy. [laughter] >> so it's a wonderful life is about americans pitching in together, regular americans and immigrants. i think we have two go out and tell hispanics, this is america. don't listen to liberals and give the mobility message. how to repair human capital, how
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to repair social capital. they have to have social capital in their bank account.
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>> host: we are pleased to be joined by david treuer. here's one of, or is only nonfiction book, "rez life." mr. treuer what does it mean to be from a -- >> guest: is a great question and even though i'm from a reservation and i grew up on a reservation and i moved back to that reservation through long periods of my life i didn't have an answer to that. reservations are so varied and so complex and i think so crucial both to the indians from them and to the rest of the country. i didn't have a good answer and that is in the is in essence what i wrote the book. >> host: you use the word indian and not native american. >> guest: this is only may and i'm only talking for myself but to mean native american indian and indian i use all three interchangeably just to keep things spicy. other people care a great deal but i don't. >> host: doesn't make you more
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authentic? >> guest: does what? >> host: being from a reservation. >> guest: that is what underscore in the book, this perception if you are native but not from a reservation or didn't grow up really really hard in poverty and with trauma and drug abuse then you are not somehow authentically native. that is one of the things i argue against in the book. i try to show that american indian life, reservation life is many things. it might be hard, but it's not just that. reservation lives aren't simply buys of trauma. reservation lives aren't basis of suffering but there's all sorts of amazing things at work and i play, politics and language and culture and history and those things need to be noted and remembered. most books and conversations and "rez life" focus on what we think of as the tragedy of our existence.
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we don't live on reservations because they. we live on reservations because we love them and they are vibrant and interesting places in ways that even other native people don't understand. so this book is really meant to explore what reservations mean for native people and what they mean for the country of america. >> host: from your book "rez life" and deon grant makes up 2.3% of the land in the u.s.. we number slightly over 2 million, up significantly from not quite 240,000 in 1900. first of all y. 240,000 only in the 1900? >> at the turn-of-the-century basically after the massacre at wounded knee in 1890 and 91, that period which happened on the planes and it happened to the lakota but writ large the turn-of-the-century was the low point for tribes across the country greater numbers were
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down. our traditional forms of leadership had in many ways been compromised or completely destroyed. the culture was under assault through boarding schools and forced assimilation. we had no economic systems in place to replace our tribal way of living. it was the low point. it was the worst point in our history i think. since 1900 so in a sense from 1900 we have been climbing out of the hole of history and their numbers have been increasing. we have been consolidating our power and making our own government. we have been revitalizing our culture and their languages and we are on the rise i have to say. this is nowhere more keenly felt than an issue of mascots and in the washington redskins. the team has enjoyed that racial slur in peace for a long time but now we are powerful powerful enough in our voices are loud enough, we are savvy enough and smart enough and the days are
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numbered for the washington redskins. that's because we continue to exist and we are growing and we are getting stronger. which runs counter to the narrative of us as disappearing and gone and all of that which is also what "rez life" is written against. >> host: you are primarily a novelist. what made you write this? >> guest: i never wanted to write nonfiction. i had no ambition to write nonfiction but after the school shooting on the red lake reservation 2005, i was sickened by the news coverage of the shooting which persisted in portraying indian lives as tragic come as necessarily tragic as sort of inherently tragic. and the school shooting really brought that home and abroad the story of the tragic indian and made us broadly national and very timely. i went to the press and i said
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i'm sick of that story. i'm sick of that way of telling the story of indian lives. he said so am i so let's do a book. i was really really grateful to him and his vision and i tried to write something that got beyond tragedy. i had to do that in nonfiction. the shooting at red lake was personally felt by me. i used to work enough high school and i have family and friends from that reservation. it's just up the road from mine. i wanted our lives to matter more than simply examples of lives gone wrong. >> host: david treuer what is your heritage? >> guest: my mother is ojibwe from east lake and my father is jewish. he's from austria and he's a holocaust survivor. he fled austria at age 12 largely on his own and made it
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to the state where he was reunited with his parents but the rest of his family except for a few cousins and an aunt and uncle were murdered in austria by the regime. i suppose there is a lot of blood on both sides of my family fence. >> host: how did your parents made? >> guest: my father is a man of many lives and he did many many things in many places before he finally moved just off the reservation and taught high school on the reservation in cass lake minnesota. he told me just recently that he lived, yet been around for 45 or 50 years and it was only when he moved to leech lake and he felt like he had a home. he was rejected in austria, rejected in american society and rejected everywhere he went. on the reservation he said he finally felt accepted and people understood him as a refugee and a holocaust survivor. he set up shop then raised his
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first few children there. he and his wife separated. the kids grew up. he met my mother. they were working on the same health care program on the reservation. they were co-workers essentially and they fell in love and have the troublesome children they have now, my older brother and myself in my younger brother and sister. >> host: here's the cover of the book. you talk about that life is not all bad on the reservation for american indians but then you include this picture. who is this? >> guest: this is my cousin jesse, my first cousin my uncle sonny's son. he has been imprisoned for a while for a number of charges. he will be getting out very so soon. our lives -- i may argue that our lives are tragic but they are hard for some of us. my cousin jesse, we might be first cousins.
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he grew up close to one another but these had it much harder than i have had it. so even in one family if a range of experiences that jesse would be the first person to say that his life isn't a tragedy tragedy and he's getting out of prison soon and he plans to make a fresh start and i'm really hopeful. i'm really proud of him. >> host: have indian casinos than good for reservations? >> guest: well, have corporations been good for america? esn no, right? casinos are good and bad. multinational corporations are good and bad. they provide tax revenue and jobs and income and a help, right? casinos provide revenue and income and jobs and infrastructure. reservations don't collect taxes from their citizens. so we need to build roads and hospitals and housing for the elderly and schools etc. etc.. we use casinos to do that.
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do they contribute to somewhat unhealthy lifestyles? do you they encourage gambling and drinking and smoking? sure, definitely so like any business they are very complicated. not all good and not all bad, but they have certainly changed the face of reservation life on many but not all reservations without a doubt. >> host: how much time do you spend away from your home base now at the university of southern california? how much time do you spend at leech lake? >> guest: it's kind of lately been, can't even count. i'm home about three and a half or four months a year and in los angeles eight months a year. i love my job. i love teaching. i love my students and usc is a great place to teach but man i get so homesick. i love being home at leech lake. at some point in my life there will be balance if not parity,
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someday. >> host: david treuer. here's the book "rez life" an indian's journey through reservation life. thank you for being on booktv. ..


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